Cannabis Cobb question(s)

[Agreenpassion]

I spelled anecdotal improperly. I'm looking for the perspective of anyone here that makes and enjoys cobs. I've read before, in a few places that cobs and cob pieces are sold on the street in some areas of Africa.
I have not made cobs yet, but I did collect the necessary "equipment" after the vac. pack machines came out a while back. I just haven't made any yet.

This question is concerning fresh Canna. flowers that has been cobbed slowly, with the proper temperature and the right amount of moisture at key stages so that the compressed flower is decarboxylated nicely without sacrificing potency.

I'm asking in reference to the use of Landrace Sattys and Sativa hybrids (modern and older). That's what I'll be using.
In no particular order I'll use some of these when ready: (fresh wet) Oaxacan, Jalisco, Hmong Thai X, a Malawi cross, C99, A11, A13, JTR, DTHF, a Hawaii Sativa X, an unknown Highland Mexi. satty cross, maybe some more.

A lot of people in other places EAT cobbed flowers, apparently. They don't just smoke them.

???Questions???
-What kind of experiences and effects in the physical, mental and emotional, spiritual¡ realm do cobs bring to the table WHEN EATING vs. SMOKING. (I can't remember how to underline, I'm not shouting)

-Do you guys have any particularly memorable or extreme experiences from eating or smoking cobs? Interesting for sure, but I don't want to give myself a heart attack or unpleasant experience.

bonus question:
-Not that it matters; but how does it taste? I imagine it's very dry while chewing as well as being hard to swallow without a drink.
Have any of you "guys" hear of people grinding cobbed flower down to put in caps or to use in low-temp. food products?

Thanks ya'all!

Not my picture! But I would love to cob or smoke some of this guy's harvest.

Peace

 

[Agreenpassion]

@Shua1991 and anyone else ...when and if you have the time.

 

[rkymtnman]

if you do it, take lots of pics.

I've read about it . I'd be worried about mold. they must know what they are doing

 

[Rozgreenburn]

I'll have some type of answer before too long. Yesterday I found a box full of cobbs from at least 1.5 years ago. No mold or other negative things that I can tell. I will grind some up for edibles, and I just ground some up in my flower mill. I'll smoke test it tomorrow. I was rather impressed by the fact they were still a bit moist when broken up.
The biggest downside for me, is the scent. It might be perfect for hash caps.

 

[Agreenpassion]

I took a deep dive into the writing of Tangweena. Before and now. They are a dude from IC Mag (I saw him online somewhere else a bit before then.) But, that guy had or has a great method many have built upon for making the best cobs. For years.

There's even discussions about consuming cob pieces...
When I have a bit more time I'll throw some links up (if I can). Hopefully connected to the step-by-step process I've read about.

Additionally, sometime in '25 I will likely post up a wee journal about my Canna. Cob experiences upcoming. I'll be notating any mistakes as I go along. And any successes. :crossed_fingers:

 

[Agreenpassion]

I'll have some type of answer before too long. Yesterday I found a box full of cobbs from at least 1.5 years ago. No mold or other negative things that I can tell. I will grind some up for edibles, and I just ground some up in my flower mill. I'll smoke test it tomorrow. I was rather impressed by the fact they were still a bit moist when broken up.
The biggest downside for me, is the scent. It might be perfect for hash caps.

That's a cool find. Thanks Roz!

 

[Shua1991]

I cannot speak to edible use of these cobs, as that usually requires a strongly fermented piece around 4 months or more in age. Mine are only a month old and make killer smoke, smoother and greater duration than ordinarily dried flowers of the same weight and harvest.

Tangwena believes you should take a tolerance break before starting the edible version, around 2-3 weeks and he recommends turning into tea too by letting it steep in water.

 

[Shua1991]

I believe fermentation does us a favor in removing certain compounds thst compete with THC when smoking, like cbd would, many of these compounds break down naturally over months, but bacteria or mold can do so at an accelerated rate, I have my suspicions fermentation is also boosting the overall 'enterouge effect', as the bacterium are anaerobic and excrete their own remnant compounds, similar to MSG being made from Nori(seaweed).

 

[Agreenpassion]

I've read about it . I'd be worried about mold. they must know what they are doing

I'll take phone cam pics, bro.


When I was (obsessing about) or reading about the process before: There was a distinct scientific process including specific temperatures (and a temp. threshold) and a changing but specific moisture content (dryness) at different points to get desired results. Other stuff too I'll have to try to reabsorb.
And some "cobbers" (I made that name up) seem to like their cobs more or less compressed. Some also like it somewhat drier than others also. Seems everyone pulls stems, but some leave seeds in and some people don't trim off the sugar leaves. hmm

No mold worries, growmie. I was planning to scope some of my cobs, outside and in. I might as well look out for any mold "webbing". (molds look kind of like webs to me)

Found a few online cobb images I thought might be kinda interesting.
And if not, at least I was amused.

 

[Shua1991]

You know you succeeded after the flowers smell different, my cultivar smells like green/red wine or Ginger Beer when fermented, and more like candies/liqueur typically when dried/cured. Some have that sour 'hoppy' Indian Pale Ale smell too, depends on what you're working with before starting the fermentation process.

 

[Agreenpassion]

I cannot speak to edible use of these cobs, as that usually requires a strongly fermented piece around 4 months or more in age. Mine are only a month old and make killer smoke, smoother and greater duration than ordinarily dried flowers of the same weight and harvest.
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Tangwena believes you should take a tolerance break before starting the edible version, around 2-3 weeks and he recommends turning into tea too by letting it steep in water.

Thanks for the info, broskii!
Hmm.
Cobb tea might be cool. People could really dial that flavor up with some herbs or extracts. I haven't had tea since my last Kung-Fu lesson with Sifu Ku. Which was a lifetime ago.

Yeah, I see the darker colored and somewhat drier seeming older cobs in the pics. I can understand how oxidation could cause the color change and stiffness. (Boing

When aged, and maybe fermented more?¿ It's probably a different color, moisture content and consistency on the inside compared to out, but out too. Which I imagine is desired in some cases. Speculating

@Shua1991 I imagine you used a crock pot or instapot or something similar and didn't bury the cobs in the soil for 6 months. I kind of wish you had though. That would'a been pretty rad.
How long did you choose to heat them up for? What temps. did you use? You dried out at certain times, I imagine. And maybe used fresh "deboned" flower compressed in corn husks, tied and vac'd to start. I need to read your posts more carefully. lol

My friend "is a Nam. vet. He's not online. He made some accidental Canna soup 2 years ago as he was trying a newer (at the time) fermenting process he had heard about in Thailand or Laos (can't remember which atm.) [[Not cobbing]]
He never got it to work, but he sure gave it a whack.
It was some really potent 90's DurbanThaiHighflyer and some Zamaldelica turned into potent, sweet, gooey, Canna soup. I almost couldn't take a bite with a fork. It was to liquid.
It was kinda gross, but it got me, Doug and my buddy Grower J so high as balls we laughed like loons and couldn't sleep. There were a couple times we had the weed soup with Dougie. My friend is like 74 yrs. old. And his wife was not happy when we woke her up that Saturday night.

 

[Agreenpassion]

I believe fermentation does us a favor in removing certain compounds thst compete with THC when smoking, like cbd would, many of these compounds break down naturally over months, but bacteria or mold can do so at an accelerated rate, I have my suspicions fermentation is also boosting the overall 'enterouge effect', as the bacterium are anaerobic and excrete their own remnant compounds, similar to MSG being made from Nori(seaweed).

Wow! So then, you think the fermenting process maybe breaks down and chemically changes some or most of the non-THC cannabidinoids helping the effects and maybe clarity of the high? Hmm. That's interesting. I haven't decided either way. But it's a cool idea. Maybe we could get our resident pH Chemical Biologist to chime in here.

Off of a search...
"Cannabinoids are a family of unique compounds synthesized by Cannabis that have not been found as yet in any other plant."

I read something about the entourage effect before, but I also found the info pictured below.
Sometimes Wikipedia has some very incorrect info imo. That point was just where I stopped a bit ago.
Thanks

 

[Shua1991]

Wow! So then, you think the fermenting process maybe breaks down and chemically changes some or most of the non-THC cannabidinoids helping the effects and maybe clarity of the high? Hmm. That's interesting. I haven't decided either way. But it's a cool idea. Maybe we could get our resident pH Chemical Biologist to chime in here.

Off of a search...
"Cannabinoids are a family of unique compounds synthesized by Cannabis that have not been found as yet in any other plant."

I read something about the entourage effect before, but I also found the info pictured below.
Sometimes Wikipedia has some very incorrect info imo. That point was just where I stopped a bit ago.
Thanks

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The people who criticize the "enterouge effect" are people who do not have understanding of chemotype. They can be dismissed.

 

[Rozgreenburn]

Smoke test today, cobb smoked so fine, all the way to the bottom of the bowl! I will have to make these again. I'll make some caps with the cobbs as well!
My only dislike is the smell. My delicious weed all smells of chewing tobacco and old leather, but the smoothest smoke ever!!!